What is deprogramming?

[Astrojewels]

I'm not looking for anything on this forum.

so why are you here?

[Astrojewels]

Well that question is actually very appropriate!  

[Octahedron]

It's about esoterical and spiritual things that is not teached by the Swerdlows; however that does not mean the Swerdlows do not know about it or they are not spiritual at all; in this case maybe you could say their tachings are not complete or not didactical well educated. As many course comapnies they have their own problems with educational things and presentation. And they are not alone.

I would disagree and say they do know about it, especially JS, she is very knowledgeable in esoteric knowledge and spirituality, yet as we discussed in the money mind pattern thread, some people put the money above everything else, and its all about the money with them, I am extremely happy that you especially did not take my post to a personal level, I am not on some mission against them, because I believe that the universe always takes care of its own, and I do know some very private things about them both and even though they don’t deserve it from me, it remains private.

Yet it is time to analyze and look at how they do work, look at yourself all these years of working in these techniques, the simple question is how much has your life improved? Do you consider yourself to be deprogrammed? And so on because the common question I continue to ask is show me someone who has worked with them and can say yep I am deprogrammed and living a great life….after all these years I am still waiting.  

Well, I'll tell you a thing.

For me personally, S and J do not know everything 100 percent about spiritual knowledge.

I have had to experience their teachings are fine in general for me. But people like MC and "myself" who are more independently critical about all the esoterical teachings do have something to add on their teachings to my opinion.

Then I know people who have had bad experiences with S, because of his ego, his blunders and his "moody" behaviour etc.  I accept that, that is simple how it should be as we have to stay in an adult attitude in all these things.

I am not fully deprogrammed, but I am less programmed than before I met S.

 

[Astrojewels]

Octahedron,

I never said 100 percent, and the people I know that have fallen out with him has nothing to do with his moods or ego, it’s about programming.

[Octahedron]

Octahedron,

I never said 100 percent, and the people I know that have fallen out with him has nothing to do with his moods or ego, it’s about programming.

that's all in the category of "etc" I wrote above.

and what do you mean with "it's about programming" ? Let me explain my question further:

because of the dangers of english grammar I've encountered many times in forum discussions, let me give a list of possible points and situations what this can mean, so I can consider them, and you can choose which case/situation has occured:

1) S is programmed to create troubles.

2) You, AJ and others are programmed to accept the troubles of/with S.

3) You, both S and AJ, and also others are programmed to be locked in these endless upsettings.

4) I am programmed to read and write about these things on this forum with you and I am programmed to accept this forum and write a lot of posts in a for me foreign language. So, Mr. Octahedron is a programmed english-language alter in me.

5) Richard is programmed to manage this forum, otherwise we were not in talks here.

6) We, all members here at this forum, are all programmed to go to S and then get troubles with him sooner or later, and then we write about it here.

7) Guests of this forum are programmed to read about this, so they are interested and go to S, so, S can make more money and more people can be programmed and talk about it on forums and so on.

8) This forum is hacked (via our minds) by Illuminati, Sirians, 4th Reich or KBA, so we do think we have serious discussions about programming and S; but the real thing is, they are only playing with us in their galaxy game, like playing the poker game and S is their lovebaby and he does represent the wildcard or the jester-card.

9) other possible cases.

I can say for myself at least case nr. 4 is true and MC is busy to find out case nr. 8. :D


So, what do you think about this list of of cases ?
 

 

[Richard]

5) Richard is programmed to manage this forum, otherwise we were not in talks here.

Why do you feel I was programmed to manage this forum? Wouldn't the Illuminati rather not have this forum on the net?

[Mercy Now]

They don't care as long as their agendas are promoted publicly.

[Richard]

That doesn't make sense, why would they want their agendas promoted? Also isn't there already plenty of forums and other sites exposing their agendas?

[Octahedron]

5) Richard is programmed to manage this forum, otherwise we were not in talks here.

Why do you feel I was programmed to manage this forum? Wouldn't the Illuminati rather not have this forum on the net?

No, I do not feel this, but it is a point in the list of the open question of me to AJ.

There is also free will, and the thing is also, where is the border between free will and programming ?

And I think Illuminati have many forums, yes. They do own the internet !

[Mercy Now]

Why wouldn't they want their agendas promoted? Promotion as in encouragement ,growth and advancement. 

Also isn't there already plenty of forums and other sites exposing their agendas?

What sites and forums are you referring to?

Yes ...They do own the internet.

 

 btw...I have to say I just had that  deja vu feeling.
I mean that in it's literal sense and have had it occur quite frequently this past 2 weeks.