Yukesam Discussion

[deepseafish]

i can't help but wonder if yukesam made a deal with expansions to stop exposing them

[Richard]

Yukesam didn't make any deals with expansions. He said he's not a forum person and not use to dealing with all the different kinds of people you find on forums.


Ravvau, analyzing other members isn't wise because ends up causing problems.

[Sifter]

Raavau, I concur with Richard, is poor judgment for you to profile a person like that! I ask that Raavau's last post be removed because I would not want Xanthas to read it.

[Sifter]

Apparently (correct me if I'm wrong) Yukesam's last post at HCF was deleted wherein he mentioned that he would be quickly editing his videos and then re-uploading them here.
Why did that happen?

[Sifter]

He may have pulled his videos but the did not pull his posts.
Would you please re post his announcement so people will know what he's doing?

[yukesam]

I am re-posting my last posts here since it's all deleted now and people keep sending me e-mails to ask things I already explained there. Hey let's remeber it is very unfortunate what happened and i'm not trying to lay all the blames on Richard for everything but I did asked him repeatedly to mediate and set up the special rule between me and her so i can focus on making videos. Richard is very tolerant person ( he is like a Koala ) but you DO need to hear this criticism from me Richard. All I want is HCF to grow to the next level. And I do need my break for many reasons and my explanation is all here in my posts folks.

Please remember I will always try to support HCF and its members and the fact this little time gap and the delay is most deadly for expansions. And I am so grateful for all ya'll support guys but allow me to move on. It's all good~ damn it.

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#1

You know, it is pretty clear that majority of us here are very unique and also far advanced in understanding the real stories going on in the world. But that doesn’t mean it is OK to abandon the basic rules of being a member of societies. And because HCF is a forum which encourage members to express their thoughts and opinions only in writings, it doesn’t mean it is OK a member to use her/his particular writing skills to pressure, trap and conflict with others in her/his very rude ways in daily bases.  

I’m not a robot put here to make videos to entertain the ex-expansions clients but I made videos to accomplish the goals and I already spent a lot of time and energy to make these videos exposing expansions.

And it takes a personal commitment and well thought out plans and only the creator of these videos understand its’ clear targets and directions of the videos and that would be me.

But obviously it is not wise to discuss those plans and intentions here in HCF because this is the open section of the forum where the scumbags also can read. 

The bottom line is that administrator ( moderators) who are in the same pursuit of the common goal exposing SJ must assist my efforts not because I want the special treatment but because indeed it is very delicate process that I’m trying to progress for the common goal. 

Do you think maybe I am a bit sensitive? Not only I have family but now I am exposing my face to the world that includes the secret government and everybody else, do you understand me!

I haven’t asked anybody for any help but one thing to the administrator and this one particular crazy member who recently rejoined HCF to back off from my business and don’t ever mention my name in her posts for again not because I want special treatment here but because of the reasons I mentioned above. I and I only know the true directions and intentions of each video that I make. 

So when I see a one particular member with her crazy writing skills where it can deviate any intentions and directions of other members’ posts including my videos into her twisted ways of reality then I will do whatever it takes to prevent her from doing that and interfere with my efforts to succeed in our common goal in HCF. Not because I hate her nor I have any personal vendetta against her but to succeed the common goal of so many people who got fu*ked by Swerdlows. But it is also true that I didn’t want to involve myself in her craziness. That doesn’t mean I hate her. I just don’t have time for her now. You know what I mean?

And boy do I have asked her directly and even the administrator repeatedly for her to stop mentioning my business and my name in her posts and that I’m dead serious about this since the private google group conference where we logged in as the HCF was temporarily down. I even called her in the google group all the names in the book so she can stay away from my business. I mean just say fu*k you Tony Kim and stay away. 

Instead she didn’t hesitate one bit to mention my name and my business in her posts in HCF. This is when the administrator knew exactly what’s going on. And instead of setting up the special rule between me and her like I have asked him thousands times, I felt that he was encouraging this member and her posts in my thread. I personally asked you Richard repeatedly and all you can say was hit the ignore button then nobody can read her posts??!!??

Take the responsibility and take control of your own site from going crazy by managing this type of member to ruin your forum. Don’t wait until the sh*t fall off on your head. How many times did I ask you personally to mediate this matter?

And this is exactly what this person who posted in expansions tried to say regarding forum.

Posted on July 30, 2010 by Stewart

Forums

Regarding a forum for the site…I completely agree with you Stewart. I can honestly say that I have NEVER seen a single forum on the net that didn’t have ego driven maniacal idiots that made it so unpleasant to visit that I do not subscribe to any forums. Forums and many blogs are a cesspool for the ego mind to rant. People take things out of context, throw their own beLIEfs into their interpretations of what others say, and ooze self righteousness from every pore. PLEASE do not turn the site into a forum format!

Stewart’s Reply: I agree. Been there, done that, hated it. Not doing that again, ever.

And do you think I’m making videos so I can people to see the craziness and BS going on here? 

I say, we must have the vote system where the members can kick out a member who is making this forum a cesspool of his or her miserable life either purposely and not purposely. Not only it is bad for the common good but it breaks my heart to see this behavior and I couldn’t handle it no more. I broke down yesterday and cried my face off because I had to do this to her not able to help her. ( I just don’t have time now for her. It is simple is that. ) But we are not here to help one person’s trouble life but majority of people out there who got defrauded by Swerdlows.

That’s the deal if you want me back.

PS: BTW, Stewart and Janet my loving brother and sister, I really hope you two didn’t think this incident will change anything, did you?  I really hope not.

[Sifter]

Ok, yeah, I'm a little irritable. You "clean up" yukesam's thread, that means that Yukesam's posts and all of Xanthas' posts are now erased too.
What the hell is up with that I ask?

Why don't you leave things the way they are so others can see clearly what went down?

In the past you (Richard or whoever it is that euphemistically "cleans things up") have done this at least two other time since I've been here - April/May. You HIDE the fake hyperspacecafe when it would work for our advantage... you erased that whacko person (can't remember their avatar since they've been erased) that was apparently crazy, signed up and tried to lure us into doing unethical things... for example when it would be on the record that we outed him for ethical reasons.

WhY is this happening? Is there ANYone here on this members list that you would consider consulting first before you make your decisions?

[yukesam]

#2

Administrator, you have asked me what’s going to get me back here so I posted here with my condition. And I expressed that you need to take the responsibility and the criticism of this mess because I have asked you for the help in this particular matter and you knew what the hell was going on.

Of course people who know me well want to see me get the hell out here and do my sh*t independently. And why should I limit myself and my efforts just in HCF exposing SJ where my energy is drained not by making these videos or posts but to deal with my concern in one damn member and thank you now I totally feel sorry her. I broke down and wept with frustration because I feel her deep rooted problem and the sadness. After all, she is a fellow Korean who were forced to be in a very challenging life environment even though it does not justify her behavior here. What reason do I have to hate her? Ha? It even makes my effort to expose SJ’s BS really meaningless and I just want to go out there and do what I can to help her but of course without ever saying that everything is OK with her but she does have major issues.

And this is exactly what I tried to prevent by asking you to mediate this matter long before so I can focus on making videos and posts that people are so enthusiastic about than feeling outraged and sorry about her instead. I asked her and you administrator for special rule so she won’t mention my name and my business over and over again.

But not only she started talking about me in her threads that I have no part of but she started popping the post here in this video thread for some stupid origin of name in French and what it means in Hebrew as I was focusing on the character not the damn name or what it means. 
And instead of worry about my reaction to this because you, administrator, understood well what I have been asking you and her in numerous occasions and not to mention I see you covering this particular member everywhere over good members who tried their *ucking best to be respectful. You can’t help her by covering her ass but to confront her with her issues honestly as you can even if you expect her vicious attacks. You understand me. But instead you were encouraging her saying “Good detective work ?anthas.  Ã¢â‚¬Å“ in this thread.

Now what’s the clear message here for me? Administrator?

So let me be very clear I have more problem with you, administrator, than this member. Are we clear on that? I am so disappointed at you buddy and I never said anything about banning anybody but to set up a rule where everybody need to acknowledge it and that here in HCF uniquely members can vote to kick a member out if he/she continue to go its own crazy ways in expressing its opinions resulting the outrage and unnecessary negative feelings among members here. And that I have good reason to promote HCF to the world specially those defrauded by SJ and I have reason to be optimistic when the new comers are here and they understand that they don’t have to worry about those ego driven maniacal idiots running people over just because they feel like it and they have time for that type of activities. 

But you are still standing behind some members’ posts like you don’t know nothing about and without taking your own damn responsibilities without realizing the facts that it will never hurt you to accept the responsibility and the criticism of your own business from members voluntarily spent their energy and time to make this HCF better place to visit.

People need to understand nothing changes in my effort to expose SJ whether I'm here or not but I don't believe in over kill because expansions is tumbling down. If anyone still wants to to do anything with expansions after they watch and listen to the presentation like the recent podcast of SJ about their trip to cantral America, then let them. They were so pathetic in their presentation it made me feel sorry for them. But the real sh*t is coming on their way whether I feel sorry for them or not. 

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[Admin]

[user=1588]yukesam[/user] wrote: 

[size="2"]I asked her and you administrator for special rule so she won’t mention my name and my business over and over again.[/size]

You're going to have to give me links where she mentioned your name and business because I haven't seen it. Since everyone knows your name and business I'm curious why it would matter is she mentioned them?

[Admin]

Ok, yeah, I'm a little irritable. You "clean up" yukesam's thread, that means that Yukesam's posts and all of Xanthas' posts are now erased too.
What the hell is up with that I ask?

Why don't you leave things the way they are so others can see clearly what went down?

In the past you (Richard or whoever it is that euphemistically "cleans things up") have done this at least two other time since I've been here - April/May. You HIDE the fake hyperspacecafe when it would work for our advantage... you erased that whacko person (can't remember their avatar since they've been erased) that was apparently crazy, signed up and tried to lure us into doing unethical things... for example when it would be on the record that we outed him for ethical reasons.

WhY is this happening? Is there ANYone here on this members list that you would consider consulting first before you make your decisions?

I thought I was doing yukesam a favor by deleting the off topic ranting from his video thread. I didn't see the point of leaving them there since everyone knew what happened anyway.

I deleted Travis's posts because they violated forum policy. I'm not going to leave posts on the forum that are threats and talking about doing crimes. It's clearly spelled out in the rules those kinds of posts will be deleted.